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	<title>Comments on: KAMN Show #28: A Fire Upon the Deep</title>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 17:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey ninjas,

i just want to express my appreciation for your episode on fire upon the deep by victor vinge. by coincidence, i had just finished it when your podcast came out. the science and ideas about singularity were especially helpful in my understanding. i picked up the concept of the layers, but not the overall reason for them. i also appreciate the pronunciation tips, i was pronouncing vinge, ving-geh, german style. 
one correction, ravna was not from straumli realm, she had been warned against it by her folks.
i also want to recommend the prequel. i read a deepness in the sky first and i have to say i like it better, although i definately enjoyed fire upon the deep. pham is an important character again, although he is still in his first incarnation. you get his full background story, which is helpful for fire upon the deep, but deepness in the sky is also a more hopeful book, centering on a planet of aliens that have just entered their industrial age and resemble spiders, and two different human civilizations competing to gain access to them first. one of these civilizations has developed a horrific new technology that enables immense human concentration and chaos ensues when the other side discovers it. this book is every bit as deep and rich as fire upon the deep, but it isn't such a sad story.

thanks, great pod-casting,

heather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey ninjas,</p>
<p>i just want to express my appreciation for your episode on fire upon the deep by victor vinge. by coincidence, i had just finished it when your podcast came out. the science and ideas about singularity were especially helpful in my understanding. i picked up the concept of the layers, but not the overall reason for them. i also appreciate the pronunciation tips, i was pronouncing vinge, ving-geh, german style.<br />
one correction, ravna was not from straumli realm, she had been warned against it by her folks.<br />
i also want to recommend the prequel. i read a deepness in the sky first and i have to say i like it better, although i definately enjoyed fire upon the deep. pham is an important character again, although he is still in his first incarnation. you get his full background story, which is helpful for fire upon the deep, but deepness in the sky is also a more hopeful book, centering on a planet of aliens that have just entered their industrial age and resemble spiders, and two different human civilizations competing to gain access to them first. one of these civilizations has developed a horrific new technology that enables immense human concentration and chaos ensues when the other side discovers it. this book is every bit as deep and rich as fire upon the deep, but it isn&#8217;t such a sad story.</p>
<p>thanks, great pod-casting,</p>
<p>heather</p>
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		<title>By: Salul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 15:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great show, guys. As you say, there are many aspects to this book to comment on, but here is one that popped up straight away as soon as Tim and David mentioned the Tines and the fact that the way in which they come together is so cool and well thought out as a sci-fi concept; I was reminded of the anthropologists Marilyn Strathern and Roy Wagner and their concepts of "dividual" and "fractal person" for describing the manner in which people from Melanesia (in the South Pacific) conceptualise the multiple nature of the person. I realise this is a bit off-topic seeming, and won't necessarily be directly analogous to the Tines, but the point is that I found it really interesting to realise that often even the most alien-sounding notions and concepts are sometimes a refleciton of real-life phenomena.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great show, guys. As you say, there are many aspects to this book to comment on, but here is one that popped up straight away as soon as Tim and David mentioned the Tines and the fact that the way in which they come together is so cool and well thought out as a sci-fi concept; I was reminded of the anthropologists Marilyn Strathern and Roy Wagner and their concepts of &#8220;dividual&#8221; and &#8220;fractal person&#8221; for describing the manner in which people from Melanesia (in the South Pacific) conceptualise the multiple nature of the person. I realise this is a bit off-topic seeming, and won&#8217;t necessarily be directly analogous to the Tines, but the point is that I found it really interesting to realise that often even the most alien-sounding notions and concepts are sometimes a refleciton of real-life phenomena.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys do do War of the Worlds, you should also coer the TV series (hey, the 1st year was good at least), and the musical version. No, seriously. The WOTW musical is one of my all time favorite albums, and it angers me that the live show isn't coming to the U.S. anytime soon. You can learn more about that musical at http://www.thewaroftheworlds.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys do do War of the Worlds, you should also coer the TV series (hey, the 1st year was good at least), and the musical version. No, seriously. The WOTW musical is one of my all time favorite albums, and it angers me that the live show isn&#8217;t coming to the U.S. anytime soon. You can learn more about that musical at <a href="http://www.thewaroftheworlds.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.thewaroftheworlds.com/</a></p>
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